Shenhe Quick TL;DR Support (and sub-DPS) Build Guide
Table of Contents
- 1 PSA #1: A Support is the group mate that quietly does their part of the work, but finishes quickly so they also help you out on yours. Keep your Supports alive and happy if you want some help!
- 2 PSA #2: Both Shenhe’s abilities scale of ATK, and if you want her to become that homicidal, killing machine (like in the lore), then make sure you give her lots ATK. Also… Mommy? Sorry. Mommy? 😳
- 3 WEAPON #1 (Recommended for best Supporting): Calamity Queller
- 4 WEAPON #2 (Recommended for 4-star): Wavebreaker’s Fin
- 5 ARTIFACT #1 (Recommended for Support): Shimenawa’s Reminiscence + Gladiator’s Finale
- 6 ARTIFACT #2 (Recommended for sub-DPS): Blizzard Strayer + Noblesse Oblige
- 7 Main stats (sub-DPS):
PSA #1: A Support is the group mate that quietly does their part of the work, but finishes quickly so they also help you out on yours. Keep your Supports alive and happy if you want some help!
PSA #2: Both Shenhe’s abilities scale of ATK, and if you want her to become that homicidal, killing machine (like in the lore), then make sure you give her lots ATK. Also… Mommy? Sorry. Mommy? 😳
Shenhe’s E has a Tap and Hold variant:
- Tap E: dashes forward doing Cryo DMG and has a 10s CD
- provides 5 Icy Quill stacks that lasts 10s
- Hold E: stationary AoE Cryo DMG infront of her and has a 15 second CD
- provides 7 Icy Quills tacks that lasts 15s
Whether you hit or miss an enemy, it will provide an Icy Quill buff that provides additional flat DMG to any attack that deal Cryo DMG! This damage is scaled off Shenhe’s current ATK
So lets say your Shenhe has 2,500 ATK — that means a level 8 E will provide 1,825 DMG on top of any Cryo dealing attack.
E.g.: So if your Ganyu’s Charged Attack did something like 8,000/14,000 Bloom DMG, then it would do 9,825/15,825 Bloom DMG instead (these are without CRIT values — with the CRIT values in formula, it will actually do a lot more overall DMG).
But these stacks aren’t shared between characters — each character will receive their own set of stacks once Shenhe uses E
2 IMPORTANT TIPS:
- Her E doesn’t snapshot. So if your Icy Quill was cast at 2,500 ATK, but it drops down to 2,000 ATK while the stacks are still active, the DMG bonus will also drop. But also vice versa — if she gets buffed, then the currently active Icy Quills will also be buffed!
- Icy Quill stacks will proc on AoE. Meaning if you hit had 7 Icy Quill stacks, and Ganyu’s Charged Attack hit 5 enemies, you now only have 2 stacks left!
You will need to level Shenhe to at least level 70 to get this A4 talent! This is what allows her to work outside of only supporting Cryo DPS characters.
- Tap E: 15% DMG buff to Skill and Burst for 10s
- Hold E: 15% DMG buff to Normal/Charged/Plunging Attacks for 15s
If you have C1 (Constellation 1) Shenhe, then you can stack both the Tap and Hold buffs (BUT NOT the same buff — so Tapping E twice doesn’t mean you’ll get a 30% buff!)
The main selling point of her Q is that it reduces enemy Cryo and Phys RES by a set % based on Q level (so at level 8, reduces it by 13%). This is a huge buff for Cryo or Phys DPS characters!
Her Q will also pulse a total of 12 times (2x every 2 seconds) dealing Cryo DMG to enemies inside the AoE.
This goes without saying, but heavily recommended that you use her Q before you use her E to maximize the Cryo DMG... BUT IF YOU’RE C1 do Tap E > Q > Hold E instead to boost her own Q DMG!
Talent Leveling Order: E = Q > Normal (prioritize E, but level E and Q both equally if possible)
WEAPON #1 (Recommended for best Supporting): Calamity Queller
How do I get it D: ? – It’s time to roll boys (gacha)
Calamity Queller is her signature weapon and her best in slot for one single reason: it bolsters her ATK like mad. At level 90/90 and R1, it gives 741 base ATK + 35.7% ATK + 12% Elemental DMG. Not mention since her playstyle is similar to a quickswap character, she’ll have the double Consummation bonus — meaning she’ll actually get 38.4% ATK buff from the weapon passive alone. It’s incredibly good for her E’s Icy Quill buffs, and practically overkill.
Engulfing Lightning and Skyward Spine are both close contenders, with Engulfing exceeding Skyward if you have over 165%-170% ER on Shenhe. However, running Engulfing would mean you would have to optimize your substats to qualify for the ER% needed to gain the ATK boost (running an ER% Sands also means you would then have to makeup for the lost ATK%!)
Staff of Homa isn’t bad, but it requires to keep your Shenhe below 50% HP to really benefit from the ATK% buff, and Primordial Jade-Winged Spear is also great, but requires your Shenhe to be on field for longer to get the ATK% stacks (which wastes Icy Quill duration). However, PJWS is good if you plan on running her main DPS! Vortex is good if you’re running a shielder — otherwise don’t bother.
WEAPON #2 (Recommended for 4-star): Wavebreaker’s Fin
How do I get it D: ? – It’s time to roll boys (gacha)
Other than that ridiculously high base ATK for a 4-star, Wavebreaker’s Fin also provides a decent amount of ATK% and burst damage. Keep in mind, your team’s overall Energy cost should be around the 280-320 range at R1 to really benefit over the other 4-star options.
Otherwise, running an R5 Catch will easily become superior as it also means you’re less restricted on team comps + it also provides Q CRIT%. Lithic Spear with a Liyue-based team is also a strong option, as it can provide easily 28% ATK at R1 (44% at R5) with a comp like Ganyu – Shenhe – Xingqiu – Zhongli etc…
Favonius Lance is also a strong placeholder as it has high base ATK + high ER% to help Shenhe get her 80 cost burst faster!
ARTIFACT #1 (Recommended for Support): Shimenawa’s Reminiscence + Gladiator’s Finale
How do I get it D: ? – Shimenawa at Momiji-Dyed Court Domain (AR 30 Locked, 20 Resin per run), Gladiator’s at Any World Boss (60 Resin per run)
You just want to stack as much ATK% as possible for Support Shenhe, as it’s critical to get the most out of her Icy Quill damage. Hence why you run 2x Shime + 2x Glad to get an additional 36% ATK boost.
Alternatively, you can run 4x Noblesse if you want as it still does provide her whole team (and her) with a 20% ATK buff, which still benefits her Icy Quills!
ARTIFACT #2 (Recommended for sub-DPS): Blizzard Strayer + Noblesse Oblige
How do I get it D: ? – Blizzard at Peak of Vindagnyr Domain (AR 30 Locked, 20 Resin per run), Noblesse at Clear Pool and Mountain Cavern Domain (AR 35 Locked, 20 Resin per run)
2x Blizzard + 2x Noblesse is mainly just so she can quickly do her Q > E (E > Q > E if you’re C1) combo to maintain the buff while doing decent damage. Otherwise, if you want to actually run her as DPS or to deal a bit more personal damage, 4x Blizzard honestly works fine too — but most optimal if you’re running a Freeze comp…
Main stats (Support):
Substats: ATK (ATK% if not main) > CRIT%/CRIT DMG > ER > EM
Main stats (sub-DPS):
|ATK%||ATK%||CRIT% or CRIT DMG|
Substats: ATK% (flat ATK if not main) > CRIT%/CRIT DMG > ER > EM
If you want other characters let me know. Hope this helped. Bye.
R5 Catch or R1 PJWS or Lithic Spear R1 with 3 Liyue Characters ? I also have Favonius Lance at R4 but i plan to use Shenhe with Xiangling, Bennett and Ganyu
Most output for buffing would be the Lithic Spear with with 3 Liyue characters, since it would provide a much higher ATK overall. If you’re looking to sub DPS though, R5 Catch will do perfectly fine!
Thanks a lot for the quick answer ! I plan to use her for buffing Ganyu so i’ll go with Lithic Spear
how much ER should Shenhe have?
You want to sit around 150-170% if you’re not running a battery. If you’re running Engulfing Lightning on her, then you can opt to prioritize ER% > EM in your substats (or alternatively run ER% Sands and prioritize ATK% in your substats)
Just got her and playing around a bit – I’ve got the stuff to make her a sub-DPS or support, but was curious on what your thoughts for an R5 Wavebreaker’s vs a Primordial Jade Winged Spear for a DPS oriented build. I’m thinking it would be fun to run her with Chongyun so she can benefit from her own E just to see how it plays.
If you have the CRIT% on your artifacts, then R5 Wavebreaker > R1 PJWS. However, if you aren’t able to gain around 65-ish%+ from the Wavebreaker passive (so you would need over 280 Energy cost in your team), then PJWS would technically still perform a bit better for main DPS.
I haven’t fully tested the total DPS comparison for main DPS, but from E + Q numbers — Wavebreaker takes lead as long as you hit the pre-req’s!